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Undercover US Internet Police Trying to Trap Chinese QQ Users
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samsloan
2009-11-06 19:04:15 UTC
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I want to warn readers here about an Internet police trap that I
easily could have fallen into.

In the last few hours I have received three emails from a QQ address.

QQ is an Internet instant messaging group based in China which is
similar to AOL's AIM, the AOL Instant messenger.

Because of a mistake in the third message I received, I became
suspicious. I was able to trace down the source of the emails and I
found out that the emails actually came from an undercover police
officer in Los Angeles.

I was suspicious from the beginning because the emails claimed to be
from a poorly educated 16 year old girl in a rural area near Guangzhou
China who has a bad family life and wants to come to America.

Actually, it was not that obvious but this was where the conversation
was heading.

I doubt that I would have fallen into the trap, but I am sure that
many men will fall for lines like this one. Even a chess grandmaster
who should have known better fell into an Internet sting like this one
and faced life imprisonment a few years ago, but fortunately was found
not guilty by the jury.

(I will not repeat the name of that person but everybody knows it.)

What makes my case different is that they were using a server based in
Mainland China. I think that the Chinese authorities should officially
object and protest to the Los Angeles police using their servers in
this way.

Sam Sloan
MrVidmar
2009-11-06 19:12:43 UTC
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Post by samsloan
I want to warn readers here about an Internet police trap that I
easily could have fallen into.
In the last few hours I have received three emails from a QQ address.
QQ is an Internet instant messaging group based in China which is
similar to AOL's AIM, the AOL Instant messenger.
Because of a mistake in the third message I received, I became
suspicious. I was able to trace down the source of the emails and I
found out that the emails actually came from an undercover police
officer in Los Angeles.
I was suspicious from the beginning because the emails claimed to be
from a poorly educated 16 year old girl in a rural area near Guangzhou
China who has a bad family life and wants to come to America.
Actually, it was not that obvious but this was where the conversation
was heading.
I doubt that I would have fallen into the trap, but I am sure that
many men will fall for lines like this one. Even a chess grandmaster
who should have known better fell into an Internet sting like this one
and faced life imprisonment a few years ago, but fortunately was found
not guilty by the jury.
(I will not repeat the name of that person but everybody knows it.)
What makes my case different is that they were using a server based in
Mainland China. I think that the Chinese authorities should officially
object and protest to the Los Angeles police using their servers in
this way.
Sam Sloan
On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything. I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
samsloan
2009-11-06 20:25:27 UTC
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On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything.  I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.

Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.

If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.

Sam Sloan
MrVidmar
2009-11-06 22:04:41 UTC
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Post by MrVidmar
On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything. I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well. There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
samsloan
2009-11-06 22:16:52 UTC
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Post by MrVidmar
On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything.  I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well.  There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
Sorry, but the fact that you do not discern the similarity is
troubling.

The QQ address of the fake female is 229529284

If you check that profile right now, it will say Female Age 1 Los
Angeles, California.

The profile also says, "Like drama escape to the United States
share ....."

He/she shifts back from boy to girl to boy trying to catch somebody.

Sam Sloan
MrVidmar
2009-11-06 22:28:37 UTC
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Post by MrVidmar
On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything. I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well. There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
Sorry, but the fact that you do not discern the similarity is
troubling.
The QQ address of the fake female is 229529284
If you check that profile right now, it will say Female Age 1 Los
Angeles, California.
The profile also says, "Like drama escape to the United States
share ....."
He/she shifts back from boy to girl to boy trying to catch somebody.
Sam Sloan
That's what they do when trying to catch pedophiles. More power to them.
:-)
samsloan
2009-11-06 22:39:34 UTC
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Post by MrVidmar
That's what they do when trying to catch pedophiles. More power to them.
  :-)
Let me guess: You are not a member of the American Civil Liberties
Union.

Another clue that this is a sting operation and not a fair damsel in
distress is the fake broken English.

The online profile of this person says that the primary language is
English.

You would never know it from the letters in broken English I have been
receiving from this address.

This person is obviously using the Babelfish Online Chinese English
Translator at
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

The person types in English and Babelfish translates it in to Chinese.

Then the person takes the Chinese and has it translated back to
English.

The result is the broken English letters that I have been getting.

That plus the person writing this time as a male asked me in obscene
language to provide a picture of my penis, then changed back to a cute
but distressed female a few minutes later.

I am surprised that you find nothing wrong with a police department
doing this.

Sam Sloan
MrVidmar
2009-11-06 22:48:19 UTC
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Post by MrVidmar
That's what they do when trying to catch pedophiles. More power to them.
:-)
Let me guess: You are not a member of the American Civil Liberties
Union.
I have been, but am not at present.
Post by samsloan
Another clue that this is a sting operation and not a fair damsel in
distress is the fake broken English.
Yup. It's a sting to catch pedophiles. As long as it doesn't involve
legal entrapment--it's OK by me.
Post by samsloan
The online profile of this person says that the primary language is
English.
You would never know it from the letters in broken English I have been
receiving from this address.
This person is obviously using the Babelfish Online Chinese English
Translator at
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
The person types in English and Babelfish translates it in to Chinese.
Then the person takes the Chinese and has it translated back to
English.
The result is the broken English letters that I have been getting.
That plus the person writing this time as a male asked me in obscene
language to provide a picture of my penis, then changed back to a cute
but distressed female a few minutes later.
I am surprised that you find nothing wrong with a police department
doing this.
What I find "wrong" is that the police department appears to have
assigned an incompetent to do this job.
Post by samsloan
Sam Sloan
None
2009-11-07 02:33:41 UTC
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On Nov 6, 5:48 pm, MrVidmar <***@nowhere.com> wrote:

Yup. It's a sting to catch pedophiles. As long as it doesn't involve
legal entrapment--it's OK by me. --BL

More like some sort of con job to get Sam to send money for
transportation then Pffff. It is impossible to scam Sam out of money.
samsloan
2009-11-07 20:38:37 UTC
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Post by samsloan
Post by MrVidmar
On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything.  I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well.  There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
Sorry, but the fact that you do not discern the similarity is
troubling.
The QQ address of the fake female is 229529284
If you check that profile right now, it will say Female Age 1 Los
Angeles, California.
The profile also says, "Like drama escape to the United States
share ....."
He/she shifts back from boy to girl to boy trying to catch somebody.
Sam Sloan
Remember I told you that 229529284 was an undercover police agent.
Take a look at him/her now. Yesterday, he/she was a female aged 1.
Today, he/she is a male aged 15.
samsloan
2009-11-07 21:02:49 UTC
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Post by samsloan
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Post by MrVidmar
On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything.  I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well.  There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
Sorry, but the fact that you do not discern the similarity is
troubling.
The QQ address of the fake female is 229529284
If you check that profile right now, it will say Female Age 1 Los
Angeles, California.
The profile also says, "Like drama escape to the United States
share ....."
He/she shifts back from boy to girl to boy trying to catch somebody.
Sam Sloan
Remember I told you that 229529284 was an undercover police agent.
Take a look at him/her now. Yesterday, he/she was a female aged 1.
Today, he/she is a male aged 15.
The undercover agent also sends emails from the address:

***@qq.com

The way I caught him/her is that zheng6425231 @ qq.com is the same
address as 229529284 @ qq.com

The first address sends emails from a gay man who wants to see
pictures of my cock.
The second address sends emails from a poorly educated innocent girl
from a remote area of China who wants to escape to the United States.

Yes, they are both the same person.
David Ames
2009-11-07 21:51:22 UTC
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Post by MrVidmar
On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything.  I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well.  There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
Sorry, but the fact that you do not discern the similarity is
troubling.
The QQ address of the fake female is 229529284
If you check that profile right now, it will say Female Age 1 Los
Angeles, California.
The profile also says, "Like drama escape to the United States
share ....."
He/she shifts back from boy to girl to boy trying to catch somebody.
Sam Sloan
Remember I told you that 229529284 was an undercover police agent.
Take a look at him/her now. Yesterday, he/she was a female aged 1.
Today, he/she is a male aged 15.
The first address sends emails from a gay man who wants to see
pictures of my cock.
The second address sends emails from a poorly educated innocent girl
from a remote area of China who wants to escape to the United States.
Yes, they are both the same person.
Guangzhou/Guangdong is the city we traditionally know as Canton, is it
not? It is hardly a "remote" area. What Sam reports seems like a
setup using obviously false information in order to entice him,
depending on which way one supposes his sexuality runs wild. I wonder
if there is a Freedom of Information Act pertaining to governmental
entities in California. What do they "know" about Sam -- or what
information do police in California have, purporting to represent his
activities?

Several months ago, a foul-mouthed fussbudget VoR, posting from
binghamton.net, posted openly a threat to the sanctity of Sam's
family. When I told the harridan off for such behavior, she(?) railed
against me for supporting Sam Sloan and claimed that I must therefore
be fired from my government job. Of course I never indicated support
for Sam in VoR's personal affray with Sam. I simply disagreed with
VoR's attitude and position.

I addressed my personal concern to ***@binghamton.net but never
received a response.

David Ames
samsloan
2009-11-07 22:49:48 UTC
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On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything.  I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well.  There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
Sorry, but the fact that you do not discern the similarity is
troubling.
The QQ address of the fake female is 229529284
If you check that profile right now, it will say Female Age 1 Los
Angeles, California.
The profile also says, "Like drama escape to the United States
share ....."
He/she shifts back from boy to girl to boy trying to catch somebody.
Sam Sloan
Remember I told you that 229529284 was an undercover police agent.
Take a look at him/her now. Yesterday, he/she was a female aged 1.
Today, he/she is a male aged 15.
The first address sends emails from a gay man who wants to see
pictures of my cock.
The second address sends emails from a poorly educated innocent girl
from a remote area of China who wants to escape to the United States.
Yes, they are both the same person.
Guangzhou/Guangdong is the city we traditionally know as Canton, is it
not?  It is hardly a "remote" area.  What Sam reports seems like a
setup using obviously false information in order to entice him,
depending on which way one supposes his sexuality runs wild.  I wonder
if there is a Freedom of Information Act pertaining to governmental
entities in California.  What do they "know" about Sam -- or what
information do police in California have, purporting to represent his
activities?
Several months ago, a foul-mouthed fussbudget VoR, posting from
binghamton.net, posted openly a threat to the sanctity of Sam's
family.  When I told the harridan off for such behavior, she(?) railed
against me for supporting Sam Sloan and claimed that I must therefore
be fired from my government job.  Of course I never indicated support
for Sam in VoR's personal affray with Sam.  I simply disagreed with
VoR's attitude and position.
received a response.
David Ames
Thank you for your observations.

The female persona says that she is from Guangdong Province, a large
province of which Guangzhou in the capital. She could easily be from a
remote village in Guangdong Province.

While I was in China I learned that the vast majority of marriages
between American men and Chinese girls occur in Guangzhou. In fact,
the US Embassy now has a rule. If you want to apply to bring your new
wife to America, you must file the application with the US Consulate
in Guangzhou. You cannot even file it in Beijing any more.

I do not believe that this undercover agent is targeting me in
particular. If he had been going especially after me he would have
been a lot more careful at concealing his identity. I think he is
probably targeting any American who is on http://imqq.com At this very
moment there are 58 million users online with QQ but very few of them
are Americans and he probably found me through a scan.

A big problem with QQ is a lot of users send porn pictures of their
supposed selves. AOL bans such people immediately. It seems that QQ is
not as good as getting rid of these people.

Sam Sloan
noauth
2009-11-09 16:11:38 UTC
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Post by samsloan
posted openly a threat to the sanctity of Sam's family.
Threat to sanctity of Sam's family is - Sam! If Sam gets deceased or
castrate, best for his family sanctity. Ten/eleven Courts have made
ruleings like this.
Post by samsloan
While I was in China I learned that the vast majority of marriages
between American men and underage Chinese girls occur in Guangzhou.
Sam learn this, because Sam try to import under-age idiot girls from
China, now Mrs Kayo Sloan told Sam to go fuck off because she catch
Sam molest her daughter of 7 years.
Post by samsloan
I do not believe that this undercover agent is targeting me in
particular.
ha-ha!
Post by samsloan
If he had been going especially after me he would have been a lot
more careful at concealing his identity.
Why? You think we be frighten of dirty pedophile criminals?
Post by samsloan
he probably found me through a scan.
ha-ha-ha!
Post by samsloan
It seems that QQ is not as good as getting rid of these people.
Slime Sloan cruise internet to find victim for his kiddyfucking. He
get caught with red hands by policeman. So, he squeals like pig.
Post by samsloan
Sam Sloan
http://direkickfeud.blogspot.com

Historic record will show US Chess Federation executive board and
others took side with kiddyfucker Sam Sloan, instead of grandmaster
chessplayer who he had tried to make a victim and her family. Shame
to them.

All person who support to Sam Sloan in real-life or online becomes a
natural PEDOPHILE SUSPECT and is reported to police for monitering.
samsloan
2009-11-09 20:10:05 UTC
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On the contrary, I think this is a sign of fruitful cooperation between
governments, if anything.  I'm glad that law enforcement is pro-actively
cruising the internet for pedophiles.
I doubt that you have thought this through very clearly.
Suppose instead that it was the Chinese Police using an AOL account
pretending to be Americans so as to catch Chinese dissidents over in
China.
If you think that the Los Angeles Police should be able to use a
Mainland Chinese sever to catch Americans, then you should agree that
the Chinese Police can use AOL , MSN and similar services to catch
Chinese over in China.
Sam Sloan
No, I've thought it through very well.  There is a significant
difference between using the police power of the state to stifle speech
and dissent within a society and using the police power of the state to
catch out pedophiles. That you do not discern the distinction is troubling.
Sorry, but the fact that you do not discern the similarity is
troubling.
The QQ address of the fake female is 229529284
If you check that profile right now, it will say Female Age 1 Los
Angeles, California.
The profile also says, "Like drama escape to the United States
share ....."
He/she shifts back from boy to girl to boy trying to catch somebody.
Sam Sloan
Remember I told you that 229529284 was an undercover police agent.
Take a look at him/her now. Yesterday, he/she was a female aged 1.
Today, he/she is a male aged 15.
The undercover police officer has just contacted me again, this time
using a gmail address based on the same QQ address.

However, the original QQ address of 229529284 has been blocked by QQ,
perhaps because of my complaints to QQ or even because of my postings
here.

Sam Sloan
ltlee1
2009-11-06 19:19:36 UTC
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Post by samsloan
I want to warn readers here about an Internet police trap that I
easily could have fallen into.
In the last few hours I have received three emails from a QQ address.
QQ is an Internet instant messaging group based in China which is
similar to AOL's AIM, the AOL Instant messenger.
Because of a mistake in the third message I received, I became
suspicious. I was able to trace down the source of the emails and I
found out that the emails actually came from an undercover police
officer in Los Angeles.
I was suspicious from the beginning because the emails claimed to be
from a poorly educated 16 year old girl in a rural area near Guangzhou
China who has a bad family life and wants to come to America.
Actually, it was not that obvious but this was where the conversation
was heading.
I doubt that I would have fallen into the trap, but I am sure that
many men will fall for lines like this one. Even a chess grandmaster
who should have known better fell into an Internet sting like this one
and faced life imprisonment a few years ago, but fortunately was found
not guilty by the jury.
(I will not repeat the name of that person but everybody knows it.)
What makes my case different is that they were using a server based in
Mainland China. I think that the Chinese authorities should officially
object and protest to the Los Angeles police using their servers in
this way.
Sam Sloan
What is the undercover agent soliciting or proposing?
samsloan
2009-11-06 19:34:20 UTC
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samsloan
2009-11-06 19:20:17 UTC
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Just one minute after posting I was contacted by the same Undercover
Police Officer in Los Angeles, but this time posing as a gay man
wanting a homosexual relationship.

I immediately hit the Police Icon on QQ and reported it. I also told
him that I know who he is and not to contact me again.
Post by samsloan
I want to warn readers here about an Internet police trap that I
easily could have fallen into.
In the last few hours I have received three emails from a QQ address.
QQ is an Internet instant messaging group based in China which is
similar to AOL's AIM, the AOL Instant messenger.
Because of a mistake in the third message I received, I became
suspicious. I was able to trace down the source of the emails and I
found out that the emails actually came from an undercover police
officer in Los Angeles.
I was suspicious from the beginning because the emails claimed to be
from a poorly educated 16 year old girl in a rural area near Guangzhou
China who has a bad family life and wants to come to America.
Actually, it was not that obvious but this was where the conversation
was heading.
I doubt that I would have fallen into the trap, but I am sure that
many men will fall for lines like this one. Even a chess grandmaster
who should have known better fell into an Internet sting like this one
and faced life imprisonment a few years ago, but fortunately was found
not guilty by the jury.
(I will not repeat the name of that person but everybody knows it.)
What makes my case different is that they were using a server based in
Mainland China. I think that the Chinese authorities should officially
object and protest to the Los Angeles police using their servers in
this way.
Sam Sloan
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2009-11-07 02:29:07 UTC
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On Nov 6, 2:20 pm, samsloan <***@gmail.com> wrote:


Just one minute after posting I was contacted by the same Undercover
Police Officer in Los Angeles, but this time posing as a gay man
wanting a homosexual relationship. --SS

Direct him to Phil IMnes, he'll fix him up with Paul Morphy.
samsloan
2009-11-06 19:23:30 UTC
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The undercover police officer has just contacted me three more times.

Here is what he IMed me (Can you read Chihese)

Zhang Si Lei Male Calif. 2:20:13 PM
死人的照片.
Post by samsloan
I want to warn readers here about an Internet police trap that I
easily could have fallen into.
In the last few hours I have received three emails from a QQ address.
QQ is an Internet instant messaging group based in China which is
similar to AOL's AIM, the AOL Instant messenger.
Because of a mistake in the third message I received, I became
suspicious. I was able to trace down the source of the emails and I
found out that the emails actually came from an undercover police
officer in Los Angeles.
I was suspicious from the beginning because the emails claimed to be
from a poorly educated 16 year old girl in a rural area near Guangzhou
China who has a bad family life and wants to come to America.
Actually, it was not that obvious but this was where the conversation
was heading.
I doubt that I would have fallen into the trap, but I am sure that
many men will fall for lines like this one. Even a chess grandmaster
who should have known better fell into an Internet sting like this one
and faced life imprisonment a few years ago, but fortunately was found
not guilty by the jury.
(I will not repeat the name of that person but everybody knows it.)
What makes my case different is that they were using a server based in
Mainland China. I think that the Chinese authorities should officially
object and protest to the Los Angeles police using their servers in
this way.
Sam Sloan
ltlee1
2009-11-06 23:42:45 UTC
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The undercover police officer has just contacted me three more times.
Here is what he IMed me (Can you read Chihese)
Zhang Si Lei Male Calif.  2:20:13 PM
死人的照片.
"Photo of the deceased."
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Post by samsloan
I want to warn readers here about an Internet police trap that I
easily could have fallen into.
In the last few hours I have received three emails from a QQ address.
QQ is an Internet instant messaging group based in China which is
similar to AOL's AIM, the AOL Instant messenger.
Because of a mistake in the third message I received, I became
suspicious. I was able to trace down the source of the emails and I
found out that the emails actually came from an undercover police
officer in Los Angeles.
I was suspicious from the beginning because the emails claimed to be
from a poorly educated 16 year old girl in a rural area near Guangzhou
China who has a bad family life and wants to come to America.
Actually, it was not that obvious but this was where the conversation
was heading.
I doubt that I would have fallen into the trap, but I am sure that
many men will fall for lines like this one. Even a chess grandmaster
who should have known better fell into an Internet sting like this one
and faced life imprisonment a few years ago, but fortunately was found
not guilty by the jury.
(I will not repeat the name of that person but everybody knows it.)
What makes my case different is that they were using a server based in
Mainland China. I think that the Chinese authorities should officially
object and protest to the Los Angeles police using their servers in
this way.
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samsloan
2009-11-07 02:59:21 UTC
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The undercover police officer has just contacted me three more times.
Here is what he IMed me (Can you read Chihese)
Zhang Si Lei Male Calif.  2:20:13 PM
死人的照片.
"Photo of the deceased."
Right, and directly under this Chinese statement meaning "Photo of the
deceased" there was a picture of me.

I have a webcam because everybody in China seems to have one, and when
this undercover agent first contacted me through his webcam I accepted
the call.

He then was able to take my picture.

When I realized what kind of call it was, I closed the line. He then
emailed my picture and the words in Chinese below the picture "Photo
of the deceased."

This could be interpreted as a death threat, but there is nothing I
can do about it.

Sam Sloan
madams
2009-11-07 23:16:54 UTC
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The undercover police officer has just contacted me three more times.
Here is what he IMed me (Can you read Chihese)
Zhang Si Lei Male Calif. Â 2:20:13 PM
死人的照片.
"Photo of the deceased."
Right, and directly under this Chinese statement meaning "Photo of the
deceased" there was a picture of me.
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Heh ! a new twist on "death warmed-up" .

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I have a webcam because everybody in China seems to have one, and when
this undercover agent first contacted me through his webcam I accepted
the call.
He then was able to take my picture.
When I realized what kind of call it was, I closed the line. He then
emailed my picture and the words in Chinese below the picture "Photo
of the deceased."
This could be interpreted as a death threat, but there is nothing I
can do about it.
Sam Sloan
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2009-11-06 21:48:37 UTC
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You cannot see the mistake because it was on the QQ address in China.

Basically the profile of the person at first said that she was a girl.
A few minutes later it changed to a boy. The person contacted me six
times in a matter of a few minutes, perhaps forgetting that he/she had
just contacted me a few minutes earlier under a different persona.

I have blocked that person from contacting me again, the first time I
have ever blocked anybody.

Unfortunately, when I blocked the person the messages and all the
headers disappeared too and I cannot recover them.

Here is another message from the same person. Again, it is not
immediately apparent that this was a Sting operation. I might as well
give you the address too. You can contact this person, but if you get
arrested do not blame me:
★儍妞〓せ界 <***@qq.com>:

★儍妞〓せ界 to me
show details 8:49 AM (7 hours ago)


Thank you for your kindness,
What sort of person you are very good!
My age may surprise you. But this is true I am. I told you not so
understanding. Perhaps you have a deep desire to touch my young mind!
I do not know you right in the extraordinary views of ...
My own study is not so good! But I think a person of your dreams
should strive to achieve, even with the number of wind and rain, if
you do not mind me, if you are willing to teach me what you can do in
English .......
Would you been to China?
I was born in rural areas,
Is also well-educated,
Hair photos you can come?
I wish you:
Fast every day!
ltlee1
2009-11-06 23:43:30 UTC
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You cannot see the mistake because it was on the QQ address in China.
Basically the profile of the person at first said that she was a girl.
A few minutes later it changed to a boy. The person contacted me six
times in a matter of a few minutes, perhaps forgetting that he/she had
just contacted me a few minutes earlier under a different persona.
I have blocked that person from contacting me again, the first time I
have ever blocked anybody.
Unfortunately, when I blocked the person the messages and all the
headers disappeared too and I cannot recover them.
Here is another message from the same person. Again, it is not
immediately apparent that this was a Sting operation. I might as well
give you the address too. You can contact this person, but if you get
★儍妞〓せ界 to me
show details 8:49 AM (7 hours ago)
Thank you for your kindness,
    What sort of person you are very good!
    My age may surprise you. But this is true I am. I told you not so
understanding. Perhaps you have a deep desire to touch my young mind!
I do not know you right in the extraordinary views of ...
   My own study is not so good! But I think a person of your dreams
should strive to achieve, even with the number of wind and rain, if
you do not mind me, if you are willing to teach me what you can do in
English .......
   Would you been to China?
    I was born in rural areas,
    Is also well-educated,
    Hair photos you can come?
                       Fast every day!
It is spooky if it came from an undercover agent.
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2009-11-06 23:02:05 UTC
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Sam, what exactly does this have to do with the stated purpose of this
group? You know, chess?
samsloan
2009-11-11 10:19:12 UTC
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The Undercover Police Officer has contacted me again. The guy will not
give up.

I have often heard that if you ask the question to an undercover
police officer, "Are you a Cop?", he is required to give the honest
answer.

So, I decided to try it.

Is this true, that an undercover police officer must reveal that he
is, if you ask him?

Here is the dialogue that just occurred:

Are you a police officer or agent?
Because I know your.
Live in New York. Sam
you qq ID : 1265914968
thank you .
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2009-11-11 11:19:48 UTC
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The Undercover Police Officer has contacted me again. The guy will not
give up.
I have often heard that if you ask the question to an undercover
police officer, "Are you a Cop?", he is required to give the honest
answer.
So, I decided to try it.
Is this true, that an undercover police officer must reveal that he
is, if you ask him?
No
Post by samsloan
Are you a police officer or agent?
Because I know your.
Live in New York. Sam
you qq ID : 1265914968
thank you .
samsloan
2009-11-21 15:22:13 UTC
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Another one of these under cover police agents from the LAPD has been
contacting me repeatedly during these last few days.

This time, I will not provide the QQ number in the off chance that
this is not a member of the LAPD Vice Squad but is just an innocent
(and stupid) 16 year old Chinese girl.

Here is part of the dialogue. I ask your opinions. Do you think that
this is a Chinese girl, recently arrived from China, or is this the
LAPD?

Lucy in Los Angeles 12:26:38 PM
Let us look at your penis talking about.
Sam 12:27:07 PM
I can not do that.
Sam 12:27:18 PM
First you have to show me your face.
12:27:19
Lucy in Los Angeles 12:27:55 PM
Let us look at your penis talking about.
Sam 12:28:38 PM
Sorry, I am going to bed now.
Lucy in Los Angeles 12:29:17 PM
0k.
Good Bye -bye
12:30:21
You stopped the video call. Duration: 5 M 30 S.
Sam 1:59:33 PM
Are you back.
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:00:37 PM
Yes
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:00:59 PM
I need to see your penis,
Not allow to say goodbye ..
14:01:04
123....... has sent you a nudge.
Sam 2:01:34 PM
If you keep asking that, I am going to block you.
Sam 2:01:40 PM
Are you a cop?
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:02:19 PM
Ok
Sam 2:03:27 PM
Are you a police officer?
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:05:25 PM
How do you know, I am agent.
Sam 2:06:01 PM
A normal girl would not talk like this.
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:06:57 PM
000
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:09:38 PM
I am very sorry.
Sam 2:10:04 PM
Why do you say that?
Sam 2:11:01 PM
Hello
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:11:07 PM
I do not want to talk to you, you are too old, and
Sam 2:11:26 PM
OK Fine.
Sam 2:11:42 PM
Why do you keep calling me?
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:11:59 PM
Why do you keep calling me?
Sam 2:12:21 PM
Why do you keep telling me you love me?
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:12:42 PM
...
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:13:25 PM
You do not go to sleep it?
Sam 2:13:41 PM
Yes. I went to sleep for an hour.
Sam 2:13:49 PM
Then I woke up.
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:13:58 PM
Ok
Sam 2:14:23 PM
How many people are there?
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:14:55 PM
Is my brother.
Sam 2:15:10 PM
How old is he?
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:15:55 PM
14 YES OLD
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:17:22 PM
What you are doing,
Sam 2:17:40 PM
I am writing a book.
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:19:32 PM
That I will not bother you, petition cool my fault.
Sam 2:20:06 PM
How long have you been in America?
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:21:46 PM
Why do you want to know,
Because it involves my whereabouts
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:22:00 PM
Dear sir
Sam 2:22:37 PM
Why have you contacted me?
Sam 2:23:00 PM
I think I am going to have to block you.
14:23:19
You stopped the video call. Duration: 14 M 13 S.
Lucy in Los Angeles 2:24:02 PM
0k

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